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April 19th, 2016

April 19th, 2016 published on 51 Comments on April 19th, 2016

Gonna be a good day.

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  • Sanjay Merchant

    Professionally stupid sounds like as good a description of adventurers as any.

    • David Argall

      No, no. The adventurers are not stupid, in most cases. Insane, quite often, but not stupid. When seeing the sign saying “abandon all hope, ye who enter here”, they do not charge because they don’t understand the risks. They charge because the horrible menace on the other side might get away if they hesitated.

      • Yes, but it could be argued that charging without knowing the risks is merely ignorant, whereas charging without caring about the risks is truly stupid

        • D. Schwartz

          It’s not a lack of care but an acknowledgement of them and setting aside the fact there is little else to be done in the face of a greater need.

          That makes it inelligent, accepting, and unfortunate.

          • JWLM

            So you are asserting that they are brave adventurers, rather than foolish adventurers?

            • D. Schwartz

              No just asserting they are unfortunate due to their circumstances.

            • What’s the difference?

              • JWLM

                Plato says that the difference between bravery and folly lies in what you know when you go into danger. If you know that you could get hurt, then you’re brave. If you don’t, you’re foolish.

                Right now, Nora and Harry are brave, despite what they themselves are saying.

        • David Argall

          While caring and understanding can be mixed, the two in theory are different. Our adventurer often does not ultimately care about the danger. If he does not face it, he is a miserable loser who must bow and worship those who survived risking the danger. He can reasonably see that as worse than dead. and so risk is ultimately unimportant. We can also reasonably call him insane for not being willing to be a member of the common herd, but by his desires, he is not making a mistake when he charges. Now we can call him stupid when he forgets to check for safer ways in [or for when he does check despite knowing there is no time], but the basic decision to take the risk isn’t particularly stupid.
          Now we can note here that many of our adventurers are story or game hero, where we, the reader/player are wanting excitement or other entertainment, the hero is being insanely directed because we do not share the values of a real individual in that situation. There is nothing particularly stupid in what he does. He is just insane.

          • I just wanna go on record saying that I love that we all launched into this deep philosophical debate about the nature of foolishness solely because of a corny punchline. This is exactly why the internet is a wonderful, wonderful thing.

            • Voice Of Reason

              I must agree with The Broken Eye… the Net is truly a Wonderful Thing. One has to apply some wisdom whilst surfing it, however… all of the trolls that were chased from Mirkwood, Mechanicsburg and from underneath various bridges have migrated to this Net, making it hazardous to the unwary or (=ahem=) overly-sensitive.

              … and then there’s all those Fire Elementals starting Flame Wars…

  • Eddie’s Beard knows what to say and brings Eddie along to say it.

  • Darkoneko Hellsing

    LEave it to the pros !

    • Unfortunately Voss Malform Removals is no longer in business, so we are going to have to rely on this lot.

      • John

        Voss Malform Removal did a good job of getting rid of the small stuff, but given the fact that their corporate leadership seemed more interested in summoning deadly sins rather than dismissing them it’s probably a good thing that they are now defunct.

        • I hope Mr Thackerey has adopted some of their innovations. I don’t suppose he’ll get Herr Wolfe and O’Malley to wear the impressive and slightly intimidating uniforms, but the powder gun would be useful and having the desummoning spells ready prepared on a mat was a brilliant idea.

          • John

            I wonder if they could acquire the equipment from Voss Malform Removal…

          • Sanjay Merchant

            I took that as evidence that all the cases they handled were staged, since my impression is that a desummon circle must be custom made to suit the summon/malform in question.

          • Voice Of Reason

            Hoy, You! Does der Hetrodyne know you’re lurking around zees pages??? Huy could get in Big Trouble if you gets caught breaking tings dot dunt belongz to us! (vell, youse can probbably blame it on skinny wizzard, ja…)

            • Oh ja, iz no probleem. Hy iz detached, in Albia’s service.
              Actually, when I’m here I have to put on this funny voice, otherwise people start asking me about my grammar. If hyu iz lookink to tek de Jägertroth, cum ofer and join uz at:

  • spas

    gorgeous sky, kate.

    • Nethead Jay

      Yeah, that one really struck me, too.


    • Jordan Hiller

      It’s a profession with a very low survival rate.

      • Lily

        Professional idiots are usually extremely lucky. That’s why they are professionals. They survive long enough to do thousand idiotic things that would kill a normal person.

        • Like Maxwell Smart or Inspector Clouseau – success not through skill or strength, but sheer dumb luck.

  • If Nicola is not a central character in this one, does it mean she gets trapped one way or another at the beginning of the chapter? I can’t think of anything else that would stop her from being the hero herself…

    • Phlebas

      Yes, I hope nothing bad happens to her.

      I love the changes in her expression in this page!

  • D. Schwartz

    Ah siblings.

  • Rolan7

    For a professional stupid, that was pretty smart.

  • As professionals I trust the first thing the ladies will do is brief the proper authorities; Captain Barber’s superiors in the Police, Ms Harriet’s colleagues in the Royal Society. This should give them plenty of backup and will let the people in charge get ready for an impending major disaster. There’s also an entire University full of Britain’s top wizards available, although if they are anything like Mustrum Ridcully and co. it might be safer to tell them about it afterwards.
    I mean, Captain Barber and Ms Harriet are not going to deal with this all on their own. Are they?
    Oh dear.

    • D. Schwartz

      Why not?! They are Barbers don’cha’know. Utterly unstoppable.

      Except when they are stoppable.

    • They’ll prolly bring Sid along, they obviously need Mal so they’ll prolly grab Wolfe and Ben as well so that’s a cop, an adventuress, 2 wizards, a witch, and an easy-going German musician . . . yeah, that sounds like a decent adventuring party.

      • Euodiachloris

        You forgot Gren. You meanie. xD

    • Fraggrach

      I can’t not imagine Sid at UU now. Everyone being confused by how excited and interested he is all the time, and- *gasp!* Is that a WOMAN with him?!

      Overall, fun for everyone, at least until Vimes has to arrest one of them and it all goes downhill.

      • JWLM

        I have this bad feeling that Vimes would arrest Sid and would than go looking for his cigar case…

  • Afrodiseum

    I wanna be Eddie when I grow up.

  • Sanjay Merchant

    The way Florrie and Nora’s* heads are tilted together suggests they’re already planning to be more than sandwich artisans for this arc.

    *(I really want to call them “Florrie and Norrie”, because rhyming is fun.)

    • Or they might be arguing about what they’re going to put in that sandwich…

  • D. Schwartz

    Chekhov’s sandwich(s)?

    • rainycity1

      *That’s* an interesting idea. Can’t wait to see if you’re right!

      • D. Schwartz

        We’ll find out.

    • David Argall

      Possibly, but this scene also tells us that the ladies are supposed to stay out of the fight, and so the sandwiches merely signal their agreement with that idea. [Or their professed agreement. Having them show at the climax can now be a surprise. Or…] So the sandwiches can be just scenery, or more…

      • D. Schwartz

        A vaild point but then there is the Widdershinian fighting sandwich where the loaves are the densest around and the filling has been honed to razor sharp edge. In professional hands they can be wielded to great effect as seen by Florence Green in 1790 who was attacked by a viscous band while carrying one of these sandwiches. In the end, of the 2 dozen attackers over half were rendered unconscious or unable to fight from bludgeoning and the rest were rather minced by the filing.

        I do not know if such a creation will be present here but that was the source of my idea.

        • JWLM

          A “viscous” band? My heavens, sounds like a truly sticky situation!

          • D. Schwartz


    • Sanjay Merchant

      The most delicious form of foreshadowing known to humankind!

      At least until someone invents Chekhov’s Brownie.

      • Euodiachloris

        The thing you really need to be wary of, however, is Chekhov’s Kendal Mint Cake. Viscously insidious stuff with a hell of a kick come payday. ;) Having said that, Pontefract Cakes are also up there in the surprise toll stakes… :P

  • rainycity1

    I love Harry’s rationale!

  • InterroLiv

    This may actually be one of my favorite pages ever. Says so much about all of them :)

  • Shee Soon Theng

    Love Harry’s expression in panel three, wanting to make her sisters feel better.