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February 5th, 2014

February 5th, 2014 published on 54 Comments on February 5th, 2014

This is only like, the third or so time a wizard’s summoned a thing on purpose in this comic so far.

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  • Volac

    I swear that summoned thing makes me think of bacon

    • Little bit blue for bacon! I had to change the colours while doing it because it looked like Aquafresh.

      • Volac

        it’s probably just gluttony speaking through me wanting to get everyone to eat some bacon then :P

      • Sanjay Merchant

        So it’s on its way up to combat Gluttony’s bad breath?

  • wanderingdreamer

    Looks like whoever predicted that circle inside of a circle=donut (aka, not in the circle at all) was right!

    • Stretch Longfellow

      I dunno; a similar appearance was in the circle with Greed.

      • worldsmithroy

        Yeah, this is just camera-work for classic summoning-circle-isolation.

  • worldsmithroy

    Trying to figure out which spirit was summoned… Originally thought it was Hope, but it looks like Warrior Spirit (based on google-fu and Eririor), so the payment would be battle (incredibly odds optional).

    My hat is off to you Ms Ashwin, I love the way you handle magic and spirits in this comic, a fun but solid system.

    • BladeBriar

      i’m going with bravery.

      • svartalf

        Courage…and payment is extreme bravery/courage. And…Rosie…heh…isn’t really lacking in the Wizardy department. I strongly suspect that it’s as dangerous to summon a Virtue as it is to summon a Deadly- you’re playing with truly titanic forces in either case. One mistake could be curtains for you and those around you.

  • Del

    What did we summon? Something from Nora Barber Felton…. something that wants to join with Alexa’s selfless courage…. might it be Courage????

    I’m still curious what Nora has that Gluttony is so keen to keep her close by. Something that runs in the Barber clan.

    • Alex Hollins

      Loyalty.

  • Darkoneko Hellsing

    Is that… her fear ?

    • Sanjay Merchant

      Would be an interesting angle to go with.

      • Darkoneko Hellsing

        You know, I’ve been thinking that she’s Harry’s grandmother and that this whole story started her career.

        • Sanjay Merchant

          I thought 1830-something was roughly contemporaneous with the other, non-timey-wimey stories?

          Plus, she earlier made an oblique reference to a very brave sister of hers, which most of us took as referring to Harry.

          • Darkoneko Hellsing

            Oh. I miiight have overlooked/forgotten that part XD
            *goes re-read*

  • Summoning a Deadly Virtue? ;P

    • Del

      Awkward….

      FORTITUDE is the Cardinal Virtue opposed to Gluttony.

      As a virtue, “Fortitude” is the courage of soldiers in battle and martyrs in the face of torture — but also the strength of ascetics to endure great fasts. And Fortitude is a Barber family trait.

      • Kyrinthic

        temperence is more opposite to Gluttony I would think.

        • Nonesuch

          I think Temperance stands opposed to Greed, but that’s me.

        • Del

          I thought Temperance at first too, until I researched it a bit. The common definition of Temperance is “not drinking much,” but that is not what the virtue means.

          There is some overlap in the virtues. Temperance does guard against the desire for “too much” — food, drink, money. Thus Temperance stands against Greed, as Nonesuch observes below.

          The subtle difference is found in Aristotelian philosophy (and thus also Aquinas): Gluttony originates in the animal locus of the belly. Thus it requires the willful heart of the chest to defeat it. This is Fortitude, the strength to overcome animal desires for food and fears of bodily harm.

          Greed originates in the spiritual center of the head. And so it needs a spiritual virtue to overcome it. Temperance is a sub-virtue of Justice: Temperance is the habit of knowing that I do not deserve more than I need or more than I have worked for.

  • JWLM

    “Adoramus te”? That’s a pretty strong phrase; it might well put off any of the heavenly virtues.

    • Del

      Don’t worry. It’s dulia, not latria!

      • Me-me

        STOP BEING LEARNED

        IT MAKES ME HAVE TO THINK

      • JWLM

        I don’t think so. The Virgin Mary gets “Holy Mary, blessed art thou among women.” The Saints get “Saint [your name here], protect us,” and perhaps “veneristes te” but they’d never get “adoramus te,” ‘we love (adore) thee’ — that’s pure latria.

        (A learned discussion of the implicit theological content of a web comic. I love it.)

        • Del

          I can imagine Kate is giggling now. “Two years of stealth evangelization is finally paying off!”

          • I’m actually agnostic! I just like to mangle Latin :)

            • Del

              LOL! Your agnosticism is more Catholic than most Catholics’ Catholicism!

            • Is that militant agnostic?

            • NightSprite

              I think you can get a cream for that!

        • Jeff

          Fwiw, that seems to be in line with the philospohy of Augustine:

          “”They [the pagans] have made Virtue also a goddess, which, indeed, if it could be a goddess, had been preferable to many. And now, because it is not a goddess, but a gift of God, let it be obtained by prayer from Him, by whom alone it can be given, and the whole crowd of false gods vanishes.”
          (City of God, IV, 20)

    • Nonesuch

      My bet is on Courage / Fortitude, which does indeed belong to the Four Heavenly Virtues, a subset of the Seven Cardinal Virtues. ^^

      • svartalf

        Hey…when faced with a Deadly Sin…bring forth one of the Cardinal Virtues…

  • Feanen

    I just realized that in a comic about magic, this is the first time in two years anything potentially benevolent been summoned! Well, TrumpetDuck is probably benevolent enough…

    • str

      This comment made me realize that the weird creature in my dream a few nights ago was trumpet duck!

  • Sanjay Merchant

    Maybe it’s some kind of spirit of heroism? Courage? It seems to be on its way to fight alongside (instead of?) Alexa?

    • Dvarin

      Given that the offering is “facing down horrible doom alone” + “for her friends” it’s got to be either courage or some type of loyalty/selflessness.

      Judging by how Sloth drained sleep from its offerings, this one will probably drain courage. Unless Alexa’s got a lot to spare she’ll probably have to let it do the fighting when it gets up there.

      • Nonesuch

        Or possibly it will fortify Alexa’s courage and help her fight, because this isn’t one of the malicious seven sins, but a positive entity.

  • spas

    she is so unassuming and innocently humble, complimenting her new friend whilst pulling off an amazing feat and rescuing everyone in the hotel.

    • Nonesuch

      Yeah, Rosie is pretty awesome. :)

      • Del

        No…. She’s ADORABLE!

        • Lleyn

          Adorably awesome! Or awesomely adorable? At any rate, Rosie rocks!

        • maarvarq

          I was thinking that she looks particularly adorable in the first panel, but she is pretty awesome too!

  • Nonesuch

    To the Barber spirit of adventure, or possibly to Courage, that would be a gift. An awesome gift! ^_^ And hey, Courage/Fortitude is one of the four Heavenly virtues, so score!

  • Nonesuch

    P.S.: Update before last, I asked whether Nora has any children, and Ms. Ashwin was kind enough to remind me she has a daughter. ^^ I asked because, as much as Nora resembles Harry, her figure seems softer, rounder, more maternal – such as can be caused by giving birth.

  • Eyefish

    I’m with Dvarin and Alex Hollins, and as such my money is on loyalty.

  • Hans Rancke

    Strictly speaking she isn’t just selflessly facing danger for her friends. She has a personal interst in getting home herself.

  • Nalyd

    is there supposed to be an ad at the very top of the page? I disabled adblock for your site when I realized it was. . . well. . . doing it’s job (love your comic ^ 3^ ~<3 ), but I still see the text at the top of the page requesting it be disabled.

    I'd thought it was supposed to be under an ad, but I can still read it so. . . ?

    • Me-me

      Yes, there is supposed to be an ad over that text. Might want to recheck your whitelist.

      • Odo

        I have the same problem as Nalyd. I have the whole url of widdershinscomic.com whitelisted in Adblock and Adblock is still blocking it. It’s not that I particularly like seeing adverts but I’d like to have Kate get credit for having the adverts up. I think it may be Avast blocking it instead. I’m going to try something… (Edit: The something I tried, didn’t work.)

        • Nalyd

          Weird. . . I get the side ads at least. Wonder what makes the top banner so special?

  • Lleyn

    Really interesting discussions in here as to what this could be.

    Well, when Nora said she’d do what she must to help Alexa, despite her apparent fear, Rosie said that she’s perfect for the job. Which, along with the “offering” of a courageous girl fighting for her friends against overwhelming odds, does indeed point to courage / fortitude.

    Can’t wait to see what the Virtue will look like!

  • Elkian

    …I never thought if VIRTUES could be summoned.
    I assume it carries at least a little risk, though…

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