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  • Bill Soo

    I suspect Sid is going to get his degree out of this….

    • Nonesuch

      But knowing Sid, he might try to hand it on to Ben. ;)

    • Probably the third degree from Ms Harriet when she wants to know what took him so long.

  • Sir_Krackalot

    I Summon Sid’s Parents!

  • Tyler Shelton

    Ben: You’re in trouble now! WE SUCK!
    Pride: OH NNNNOOOOOOOOOO
    I mean, I could guess it was headed in this general direction, but still, Pride’s unabashed horror is making me giggle.

    • Grey_Moment

      NOOOO! Self-deprecating comments! My one weakness! How am I to flatter those who so blatantly insult themselves? Who would Do such a thing?!?
      Well, not you, obviously.

      • AJ

        Bwahaha! I am truly laughing out loud.

  • Jacob McCullough

    Makes sense! Two people so chronically, utterly insecure that even when they do something right for a change, they’re still waiting for the other shoe to drop, to render their efforts meaningless. To be confronted with such a black-hole of self-esteem must be terribly, terribly appalling for poor Pride.

    • Maria Gerasimova

      === even when they do something right for a change ===
      Ben does right practically always, Sid does it nearly practically always, there is no change for that and there’s no connection with their complexes, self-esteem and neuroses.

      • Maria Gerasimova

        Or, plutôt, Ben’s coprophobia is the consequence of his insecurity. But that’s all, I think.

        • He’s afraid of poop?

          • Maria Gerasimova

            He’s afraid of dirt, poop y compris :)

  • Sal

    Benji’s face in panel five is the face of a man who was born for this moment.

    • Ocean Burning.

      Panel five is PURE JOY
      …and who said Ben didn’t have a sense of humor?

      • Maria Gerasimova

        Surely not me! :)

    • AJ

      I want to upvote this more.

      • Tsapki

        I went ahead and upvoted for you.

        • AJ

          I’m upvoting your comment in order to upvote the top comment in this tree by proxy.

  • toasthaste

    I’m so ready for Sid’s inability to win at school to finally come to light. It’s Time.

    • Gwennafran

      Quite a gamble from Ben, actually. As far as I recall, he don’t know that Sid’s expelled. And clearly Sid got a lot of raw magical talent that Ben knows about.

      • AJ

        Nah. Sid’s got the attention span of a magpie-goldfish and has no sense of self-preservation. Ben knows what he’s doing.

      • Nonesuch

        As far as Ben knows, he’s probably lying about Sidney.
        I think he still envies Sidney the raw talent he knows Sid has, and the quality education he thinks Sidney’s received.

        Interesting to see he’s learned the Way of the Gab. ;)

        • Heylir

          It isn’t as if he says the absolute truth about himself, either. :)

          On other hand, being useless for a Deadly Sin is really a good thing. :))

    • thefroggyninja

      Well honestly it was never really Sid’s fault. He got kicked out because of a malform has been following him around and stealing people’s shit. And despite being kicked out of school before finishing his education he’s still a pretty good wizard.

      • AJ

        A malform in the shape of a magpie…. Gee who does that remind me of?

    • non_canon

      I’m ready to see him actively make the choice of where to go from there. Does he decide college isn’t for him, or does he go back and finish his degree because he wants to and not just because his parents want him to?

  • Basil Sage

    Panel 3: Sid’s reflection looms in the mirror Pride places in front of him
    Panel 4: Ben covers Sid’s eyes

    Perfect. Also, holy cow, it seems like Ben is killing it in this chapter.

  • Darkoneko Hellsing

    Ok, that made me snort in my coffee. grrr :D

  • Heylir

    I really like to see, time and again, that Deadlies aren’t able to comprehend anything beyond areas of their influence. Luxuria’s words to Henry about love, Invidia’s reaction at Voss’ refusal of its offer (and his behavior there in general). And now, Pride meets low self-esteem. :)

    The fourth and fifth panel made my week, no less. :)

    • Nonesuch

      It is comforting to know the enemy is so blind and limited, isn’t it? ^_^
      If they possessed greater complexity or a capacity for growth, they would probably not be the enemy …. and they certainly wouldn’t be deadly sins!

  • Maria Gerasimova

    I hope, I wish, I pray Ben isn’t caught! He is on the verge to experience a sense of pride, IMHO. The main thing for him now is not to see himself in the mirror.
    Take off your glasses, Ben!

    • Emily

      >Take off your glasses, Ben!

      Oh, that would be a good idea – presumably he can’t get caught in the mirror if he can’t actually see his reflection. Nearsightedness saves the day!

      • Haha, ALL Ben’s weaknesses are now his greatest weapons!

    • Heylir

      Well, I suppose that Ben has quite a good skill of focusing on the goal without thinking about himself and his self-esteem, because he uses to fight his self-doubt. Now, a touch of pride may be a different matter.

  • NoneCallMeTim

    I like panel 3: the same post in the mirror – classy piece of artwork there.
    And yes, dat panel 5 face. Realising that his greatest weakness is now his strength.

  • Maria Gerasimova

    And I think that actually – here and now – Ben knowing Sid is much more talented than himself, has spontaneously and immediately undertaken to defend him in this (most dangerous for such a brilliant wizard as Sid :D) situation.
    Though “Follow my lead” is rather dangerous just now – but we always see Ben braving danger if he has to!
    It’s beautiful, to me!!!
    Ben’s my second fav, just after Mal! Or, plutôt, they share first and second places in my personal rating.

    • Stephen Riggs

      I like them all. … But I’m mainly here for Harry and Sid’s love story.

    • Nonesuch

      Ben is one of my favourites, too.
      ^_^ He has great reserves of courage and determination, did he but realize it.

  • Maria Gerasimova

    And the art is perfect!
    Pride here is litterally enshrouding them, and they seem so tiny and helpless among all this purple!
    And this helplessness and tinyness (runty Ben’s specially) contrasts beautifully with Ben’s posture – without pride but full of dignity!
    :)

    • non_canon

      “Without pride but full of dignity” is pretty good description of Ben overall.

  • TheGorram Batguy

    Prepare, oh spirit of Pride, for your worst nightmare. I am he that shall be your undoing, for I am Chronic-Low-Self-Image-Man! Fortified with the biting, depreciating wit of the O’Mally, I am an unstoppable force!
    Unstoppable, that is, by you. The rest of the challenges of life stop me routinely. That is why I suck. And THAT! is why you are done for!

    • Maria Gerasimova

      === The rest of the challenges of life stop me routinely. ===
      Though I don’t think Sloth (and perhaps Lux too) do have such a big effect on him :)

  • Mr Hats

    Oh, I am gonna love the next couple of pages, I think!

  • AJ

    Sid: “Oh, how tempting!”
    Ben: YOINK “Down.”

  • Emily

    Ha! Go, Ben – it’s your turn to save the day!

  • Bieeanda

    Oh dear, I adore Pride’s expressions. They put me in mind of a Technicolor cross between a Skeksis, and a Pkunk from Star Control II.

    • Euodiachloris

      Ouch. My poor brain. -_-

    • Kore

      That was a trip through time, right there.

      • Bieeanda

        *doffs Doctor #4 hat and trips over super-long scarf*

    • I’ve always thought Pride was a bit like The Chamberlain from the Dark Crystal.

      /preens

  • Tsapki

    Getting Usopp flashbacks.

  • M. E. Gibbs

    It’s YOUR TIME TO SHINE, BEN, you get ’em babe.

  • Brother Nightmare

    Sid “THAT’S your big plan-”
    Pride “EEEEEEAAAAAAAKKK!!!”
    Sid “Okay, it seems to be working, nice jo-”
    Ben “DON’T SAY IT!”
    Sid “oh, right… sorry…”

    • AJ

      Almost, but if I may suggest a revision…
      Sid: That’s your big plan-
      Pride: EEEEEEEEAK!
      Sid: Okay, it seems to be working, good for u-
      Ben: You can’t keep a single line of thought for a single minute, you useless snob?!
      Sid: T_T

  • Nonesuch

    Ben’s low sense of self-esteem is finally coming in handy….!
    Poor guy. ^^;

    Sidney, Sidney, Sidney. That was a very transparent trick, and you still fell for it! Shame on you, dear boy. :-/

    • Heylir

      I think Sid is too impulsive to make complete control over his feelings even when he realises their danger. One may recall his rash words that betrayed them out to Envy.

      Well, if Ben reacted now in the same way Verity did then, it might help, for a moment… but Ben isn’t Verity, thankfully. :)

  • Ryan Shurie

    Normally, the big bad is only afraid when the heroes prove themselves to be more competent than they thought, rather than when they assert the opposite.

  • Yeeeees I have been waiting for this!

  • Dvarin

    One reason Pride and Envy get along so well: they don’t often compete, since people tend to only fall hard for one of them.
    And, given how easily Ben got caught by Envy…

  • The_One_Guy

    Careful now, Ben, you’re looking pretty proud of your plan here.

  • Euodiachloris

    Ewww — nasties in front of you, eh, Pride? xD

  • CF

    Excuse me while I explode into appreciative hearts.

  • Sarah Hardister

    I like the way Sid’s last word has the last couple of letters start to fade. He almost fell for it!

  • pingo1387

    Love the detail of his under-eye shadows in panel five! Sloth’s going to be tricky…

  • Matt [in Middletown]

    Come on Sid, steal something off pride!

  • Hangman

    I sense ‘a cunning plan m’lord’ ;)

  • Sabreur

    On one hand this is kinda funny. But it sorta bugs me that *this* is how they’re beating Pride. Humility doesn’t mean treating yourself like garbage!

    The whole reason Pride is considered a deadly sin is because it blinds you to your faults. Pride is traditionally the “greatest” sin because dealing with Pride is a pre-requisite for beating the other sins – you can’t address issues of Greed, Wrath, and such if you don’t first acknowledge that you have a problem. You can have self-worth without falling into Pride, you just have to recognize that you aren’t perfect and you have room to grow. Language issues aside, “feeling proud of yourself” isn’t wrong – it’s when you take it into full-blown arrogance that you’ve got a problem. Kind of like how you can eat when you’re hungry without being a glutton, or you can work for a salary without being greedy, etc.

    Then again, that would be less funny and a lot harder to convey in the comic! Given that this is literally a deadly sin made manifest, perhaps taking humility to an absurd extreme really is the best option.

    Also, just so we’re clear, the comic is freaking amazing and I love it! I always feel nervous offering even minor quibbles about a FREE WEBCOMIC, especially one that is consistently high-quality. The philosophy of sin and virtue is something that’s always fascinated me, that’s all.

    • Heylir

      About treating themselves like garbage: Ben may *say* “we are useless”, but his body language tells us something very different. :)

      About the rest, I think it is a general pattern of dealing with Deadlies. Feeling proud of yourself isn’t wrong in common sense, as wishing to eat a tasty breakfast isn’t and being angry over your grandad was shot isn’t, too. Still, in the presence of over-powerful Deadly Sins, these feelings are dangerous, they feed Sins and make you vulnerable before them.

      And as far as our heroes, all of them, aren’t ideal persons with entirely healthy emotions and complete control over them (or saints, for this matter), it is quite a practical way for them to fight the Deadlies with their (opposite) weaknesses.

      It is my personal take on this subject. :)

      • non_canon

        I really think Heylir has the right of it. In just this encounter alone Ben has seen Wolfe, probably the most humble person he knows, get trapped just by being happy with slight praise and Sidney almost suffer the same fate. He knows Sidney’s right about fighting it with opposite emotion, and he’s seen through the other encounters that when dealing with the Deadlies you either have to go big or not at all. So like with every other time he has a plan in place and a problem in front of him he’s going to boldly stride forward and give it his all.

        And while I wouldn’t presume to speak for Kate (and she is welcome to correct me if I’m wrong or speaking out of turn) I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with offering constructive criticism or asking a question about the plot if you don’t understand as long as it is A.) actually constructive and B.) worded as nicely as you just did.

      • non_canon

        I really think Heylir has the right of it. In just this encounter alone Ben has seen Wolfe, probably the most humble person he knows, get trapped just by being happy with slight praise and Sidney almost suffer the same fate. He knows Sidney’s right about fighting it with opposite emotion, and he’s seen through the other encounters that when dealing with the Deadlies you either have to go big or not at all. So like with every other time he has a plan in place and a problem in front of him he’s going to boldly stride forward and give it his all.

        And Sabreur, while I wouldn’t presume to speak for Kate (and she is welcome to correct me if I’m wrong or speaking out of turn) I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with offering constructive criticism or asking a question about the plot if you don’t understand as long as it is A.) actually constructive and B.) worded as nicely as you just did.

      • Azmodan

        Honestly, Pride isn’t something you really can defeat, as even getting a plan that starts to work against it is something that could be construed as prideful. Ben is already looking pretty pleased with his gambit…

        All Pride has to do in this situation is basically say, “Wow, you sure are good at being humble, probably the best I have ever seen at it, you would be a great addition to my collection…”

        The only way you can truly be practicing humility, is to be doing it without the intention of not being prideful / receiving any gain. They need to essentially beat pride via luck for it realistically work.

        • Heylir

          :) It is a piece of classic, yes: “Catch him at the moment when he is really poor in spirit and smuggle into his mind the gratifying reflection, “By jove! I’m being humble”, and almost immediately pride — pride at his own humility — will appear. If he awakes to the danger and tries to smother this new form of pride, make him proud of his attempt — and so on, through as many stages as you please. But don’t try this too long, for fear you awake his sense of humour and proportion, in which case he will merely laugh at you and go to bed.” :))

          “Going to bed” isn’t an option for our heroes, alas. Still, sense of humour is a feeling that *can* help against Pride. Like, for an instance, senses of fear (for oneself and others), shame and guilt are.

    • Maria Gerasimova

      === Humility doesn’t mean treating yourself like garbage! ===
      Does Ben’s look seem to you as humilated? :D Or Sid’s?
      They don’t humilate themselves, but they both are humbly enough to not fall before Pride.
      To know your flaws – isn’t a humilation, it’s rather a way to not be humilated – if you, for example, take on an impossible task and are not able to cope with it.

      • Ocean Burning.

        I agree — to know your faults, your limitations, your weaknesses, and to find joy in these things, to find the strength that lies within being weak, being vulnerable, is not treating yourself like garbage. It’s a way to begin to live without an unhealthy reliance on yourself, and to begin to allow others to be as important to you as you are…

  • Rulebook Lawyer

    Completely useless, yet you made it here?
    I would say, you have such fine talents of exceptional quality to venture into such a place that no others have done.
    You have truly great skills and wits, now imagine what you could accomplish with added confidence.
    Feel great and proud…

    • Heylir

      Let us say “No thanks, it’s too much for me” to temptations, as Samwise the Wise did. :)

      • Rulebook Lawyer

        Too much, oh you be too humble.
        No one else has performed such a feat.
        Come look, look at that wonderful face in the mirror…

  • Loving this comic!

  • non_canon

    Something I just noticed about this page. Ben is basically implementing Sidney’s plan from a few pages, he’s just better at actually implementing it because he’s both more focused and has less self-esteem than Sidney does.

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