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November 3rd, 2017

November 3rd, 2017 published on 61 Comments on November 3rd, 2017


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  • Nightsbridge

    I don’t have enough to throw in some money this book like I did the last Property of Hate book, but I can vouch for its quality. If you are inclined to give it a chance, ya won’t be disappointed!

  • Phil

    So, Jack remembers her fondly, and she obviously isn’t around anymore, so I guess she takes him away and raises him but then dies when he is a teen or something, leading to the adventures where he meets up with Wolfe?

    • Maria Gerasimova

      I think she couldn’t raise him.
      First, Acedia would find him in Widdershins.

      Second, if Mrs O’Malley would raise him for several years, he’d be able to take care of himself minimally, to mind the cleanness of the house he lives. And at least he could make fried eggs himself. It seems to me so, anyway.

      So I think she just helped him to flee, giving him some money.

      • John

        I am not sure exactly how their relationship will unfold, but I agree that Jack’s ability to take care of himself does not appear to be consistent with him spending enough time with Enid for it to count as him being raised by her.

        • Sanjay Merchant

          Mal seems to do alright with things like bathing and grooming (when he has access to the means to do so at least) and, kitchen mishaps aside, doesn’t seem to leave too much of a mess in his wake (hard to tell, with Benjy and Wolfe cleaning up after him all the time).

          I figure that, for whatever reason, cooking was something Enid never got to teach him. Maybe he didn’t reach his adult height until quite late and was never able to reach the countertops while Enid was still around. Maybe Enid herself is terrible at cooking; home cooked meals may have been something along the lines of “boil it until it looks like it probably won’t kill you,” the early 1800’s equivalent of “toss it in the microwave for like 5 minutes, it’ll be fine.”

          Maybe Enid doesn’t actually get him out of there; her kindness simply keeps him going until he finds a way to escape on his own.

      • CountSessine

        A child that young? Just hand him some money, and “On your way, lad!” Sure, and that would be a caring responsible thing to do…

        No, I think we’re going to find that Enid O’Malley did raise him — until she couldn’t. How long it went on, well… yes, she clearly didn’t get to look after him until he was all grown up. Probably he was still pretty young when he found himself on his own. Better equipped than he would have been without her, by a long shot. And afterwards, in the struggle to survive, some of what she did teach him had to fall by the wayside.

        • Tsapki

          Or alternatively, she didn’t raise him, because Acedia tracked her down and killed her for freeing Jack.

          • Alétheia

            I mean, that’s a likely option, and it still doesn’t discount what CountSessine said. Acedia could very well track them down after Enid and Jack escape, and it could well take a few years, during which Enid would raise Jack and teach him some skills…

  • Corsenna

    Is that a bit of a tear on the swan-aura’s face in the last panel? And it appears she’s already caring for the lad quite strongly, if the heartlight is any indication.

  • Skatie

    Meat pastyyyyyyyy

  • She’s giving that child a pie?! Hasn’t she heard of the importance of healthy eating and the perils of childhood obesity?! I think social services need to know about this! :-)

    • David Holm

      That’s a MEAT pie, not a desert pie…

      • MoeLane


        It’s a lime pie.

        In fact, it’s a KEY lime pie.

      • Alétheia

        Pfft. Pie is pie! Break down the boundaries between pie courses! Viva la revolution! ;P

    • tali

      I absolutely agree. Never mind the fact that the child is locked up, neglected and ill treated and hardly ever given anything to eat, on no. Social service really need to be alerted to the pie problem among our young.

      • I only have a pie problem when I can’t get any pie

    • Nonesuch

      Different times; different customs. Putting meat on your bones and filling your stomach took a premium over a daily dose of fruits and vegetables.

    • D. Schwartz

      They’ll take one look at the kid and give him a second pie.

    • camisu

      A dinner pie. Most likely meat, but if no money for meat, then potatoes. Crust just keeps it all in!

    • Euodiachloris

      Welcome to the glorious world of the British pastie or pie: anything inside, meat, gravy, potato and two veg a specialty. Including mains and desert in different sections of it: apple, anybody? :)

  • Winger

    The tiny smile in panel four :’)c Also man, Mal’s not wrong about colourblindness making food look profoundly unappealing.

    • Anne-US

      Actually, food can look good in black & white, but it is a lot more difficult. And without photography, it would be difficult for anyone besides Mal to know what it looks like in B&W.

      • Sanjay Merchant

        Well, Mal and other colorblind people.

        • John

          Most color blind people aren’t so colorblind that they only see greyscale

          • Sanjay Merchant

            True. 10 demerits to me for the ableist oversimplification. :-/

  • MoonicaMusing

    Stupid Widdershins, making me cry at work.

  • Nonesuch

    Enid is brilliant and I love her. :D

  • Emily

    Interesting. So Mal must have been born in Ireland and lived there long enough to pick up the accent, but been left in an English orphanage before he was old enough to really understand where he was from.

    • Dud

      It would be enough to spend early years among others with that accent, they could all be expatriot.

      For Enid to perceive the accent it would probably have to be a little different from her own, from a different part of Ireland, for her to notice; her own exact accent wouldn’t trigger.

      • Nightsbridge

        I don’t know, she’s living in Widdershins, after a while it feels like even the similarity to her own would be noticeable.

        • Emily

          And it feels to me like Enid’s accent has gotten stronger than it was on her first page – maybe because she’s alone with Mal and letting her guard down a bit.

      • Euodiachloris

        Wrong: it’s easy to spot somebody from your own home (down to district or even street) when you’re both outside it. The accent is home. /expat

    • JWLM

      According to WoG, Jack’s an Irish Traveller.

      • Emily

        Yes, I remember that was mentioned on that map of where everyone’s from.

        (WoG = Word of God, i.e. Kate?)

        • JWLM

          Yes, WoG is Word of God — in this case, Kate

    • Tsapki

      Well, the previous Witch was Roma, so if there is any sort of link in blood, another Roma who married into an Irish family wouldn’t be impossible.

      • Being a witch isn’t inherited, which is very lucky considering Mal.

        • Tsapki

          Ahh, I see. I vaguely recalled something about how blood relation wasn’t the defining factor, but wasn’t sure if it was a factor at all.

          Now it makes me wonder if it is a little like being the Slayer in Buffy, at least until (SPOILERS!!!) happened, where it just sort of lands on someone when the current Slayer is no more.

  • AJ

    “She’d have liked you.” Which is as much as saying Mal likes her quite as well! Sweetness!

  • kuku

    And that may be one of the strongest compliments Mal can give. Feel honored, Harry.

    • Euodiachloris

      One of? I think it’s in at #1 by a country mile. :)

  • Altzbeta Boutelier

    MY HEART. I love this arc, I just… ow. It stings a bit.

  • Jordan Hiller

    I adore her already and I know almost nothing about her.

  • Amy

    Mal’s face in panel two, followed by his face in panel three, is simultaneously the most adorable and heartbreaking thing I’ve seen in a very long time.

  • Khlovia

    OMG you just made me binge all the way through The Property of Hate in one sitting and it is the most amazing thing!
    …I don’t know exactly what thing it is, but it is amazing!

    • Yesss I love it so much :3

      • AJ

        Oh my word.


        Oh my word…

  • Michael Valdivielso

    Darn it…now I need to have one of my turkey pot pies for lunch….

    • Sanjay Merchant

      Too late, Enid gave it to Mal.

  • Ryan B

    Aw! Bonding!

  • cody demetro

    I always though he had a cockney accent.

  • Panel Five: She subtly calls shenanigans.

    • marxsgal

      Fairportfan 11 hours ago
      Of course it hasn’t been “refuted” – it’s a lot of conspiracy-theory speculation and fabulation.”” ===

      Of course you people went and got me banned from mmoa, once again.
      Still cannot handle the truth I see.

      Tell your buddies there, especially that “sh” salon I will be back with a new name to resume the fight for the truth, justice and the American way by tonight or tomorrow.
      Too busy to deal with it right now.

    • Fair warning, someone followed you here from a political board to continue a conversation they’ve apparently been banned from or something? I’ve deleted the comment because I’m not dealing with them importing drama, but I thought I should let you know that you’ve got an, uh.. follower :|

      • huh. thanks.

        i suspect it’s likely to be a troll i blocked, so i wouldn’t have seen it anyway.

      • as i said in an e-mail, maybe you could report them to Disqus and get them banned?

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