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  • Euodiachloris

    Attending lectures =/= a bit of paper… Or paying for the privilege, does it, wor Sid? xD

  • ThisCat

    Oh man, these four together is a blast! X)
    At one end of the scale you have Mal, who is extremely magically inclined yet doesn’t want anything to do with it, then you have Sid, who is gifted but doesn’t really have the right mindset, Ben, who would really like to be a bit more gifted than he is, and Wolfe, whose only magical inclination is his enchanting personality.
    Nothing like a cast of hilariously diverse characters.

    • AJ

      Sid totally has the right mindset, he’s just an illegal practitioner!

      • disqus_ealSxkOnJn

        He doesn’t have the right mindset to actually get a degree!

        • Tsapki Perez

          Well, the reason he actually ended up not getting his degree is that he got kicked out due to his little sticky fingers magical condition.

          • JWLM

            Also because he was…perhaps less than adequately engaged in his course of study.

            • svartalf

              Actually, he basically said it was the magic-pickpocket ability he has, that can snatch even tokens of extreme power from one of the Deadlies from unlikely/impossible situations.

              When you can’t keep a handle on that…it’s kind of hard to do the others, to be honest.

      • Nightsbridge

        He also isn’t that familiar with the summoning rites in general and lacks the mindset to actually sit down and lean what he’d need to be a truly excellent wizard, whereas Ben has that learning, but lacks the gift.

        • svartalf

          Or, rather lacks SOME of the gift, which deprives him of the self-confidence he needs to wield what he DOES have (Realize he **DID** summon Sloth at the behest of his boss…summoning a Deadly like that? Contemplate what sort of ability, or pure emotion, is required to actually summon one, even at an anchor…)

          • Nightsbridge

            Voss did it by accident.

  • BaronHaynes

    I bet the secret he gave it was that he likes Harry. He only thinks it’s a secret, though.

    • likes?

      • GristleMcNerd

        Like, likes likes.

      • AJ

        In the parlance of ten-year-olds: LIKE likes.

      • JWLM

        Has a blazing (possibly requited) crush on? Is involved in a blatantly obvious case of unresolved romantic tension with?

        Do those work better?

    • Liz

      I think the context makes it pretty plain his secret was that he didn’t graduate from Widdershins.

      • Sanjay Merchant

        Except that’s not a secret? He told that circus manager guy back in the first story pretty freely once asked. And told Harriet while they were still at the “point guns” phase in their relationship.

        • Nightsbridge

          It might not be a secret known to nobody but himself. It might work regardless, though, because it clearly takes a LOT of emotional investment to get him to tell somebody about that.

      • I wonder what happens if you “come clean” too early on a secret you just shared with Curiosity… Does it break the contract?

        • If a secret stops being secret, then it’s not a secret any more!

          • JWLM

            Does Curiosity expect that you won’t divulge the secret you just gave to it?

            • Some Punk

              why would Curiosity care? Curiosity was the 1st to learn and that’s what’s important.

              • svartalf

                Bingo. Sid’s got a real talent for this stuff.

    • Foehn

      What if the secret was how he ended up with that curse that makes him steal things? After all, he hasn’t kept it a secret from everyone how he dropped out of college, and it’s so obvious he has feelings for Harry that Curiosity probably wouldn’t consider it a secret, but he has NEVER told anyone in the comic (on-screen, at least) how he ended up with his compulsion.

      • Basil Sage

        I’ve never even considered the idea that Sid “ended up” with his curse at all. I’d assumed that it’s always been there. However, if he’d had it since childhood/youth, his parents probably would have known, and he wouldn’t have needed to keep them in the dark about having been thrown out of university due to the curse. Oh man, that could be one juicy secret. I’m psyched.

      • BaronHaynes

        Does he actually know how he got the curse? I get kind of a Psychonauts vibe from it, where there’s a whole subplot about the protagonist being cursed to die in water that’s never explained or resolved — a whole other story either teased for the future or left for the player to imagine.

        I think Sid’s curse will play into this storyline somehow. But it could be an entire story of its own for Chapter 8 or beyond.

        • Foehn

          He said it was a long story when he was asked about it, so I’m assuming he knows, since, “One day I just woke up with this curse no clue how it happened or what the deal with it is” is not a long story or something really worth hiding.

    • Basil Sage

      I would bet against it for the reason that it’s hardly a secret (he definitely knows that she knows. And people harboring secret crushes tend to fear they’re being too obvious, anyway), and also for the meta-reason that a secret the audience already knows could be a bit anticlimactic when it’s hopefully eventually revealed.

      • BaronHaynes

        I actually suspect it won’t be revealed, and neither will Curiosity’s design, because it’s a great way to tease the audience’s own curiosity. But I wouldn’t be disappointed to learn them either.

  • Tikatu

    I wonder how many things will magically appear in Sid’s pockets this time?

  • Winger

    Oh Sid. Of all the groups you need to cagily lie to in order to appear respectable, Dud Wizard and Hobos Inc is not one.

    • MoeLane

      Ah, Ben isn’t so bad.

      • svartalf

        No, he’s not. He’s got better abilities than his degree implies, I suspect.

        Part of Wizardy in this world is confidence, amongst other things. And Ben has less than he OUGHT to.

        Once you realize that any “degree” is just a paper saying you completed study- but it doesn’t describe what you can/can’t do, really- things go better.

        • Winger

          My understanding is simply that while Ben’s understanding of magical theory is very comprehensive, it’s close enough to being an art that the best wizards require some flair – which is what Sid has in spades. Kate’s mentioned the necessity for creativity before, which is what Sid’s showing here; thinking somewhat outside the box in deciding to use Curiosity, and quickly thinking up an appropriate (and easy to provide!) offering for it. He’s done it before as well, managing to make a bartering with Greed off of a few small coins because of the context. Ben knows the symbols and the words and is certainly very adept at desummonings, but seems to have a harder time thinking up summonings quickly and naturally. The old struggle of Technician Vs Performer.

          Confidence does probably play a big part too, aye.

    • Iituem

      That’ll be the name of my new company: “Dud Wizard & Hobos Inc.” “We get rid of evil spirits from your house! And maybe your silverware. I’m just saying, lock the kitchen cabinet.”

      • Sanjay Merchant

        Really, anything you don’t want broken beyond repair should probably wait out our visit at a friend’s house or something.

    • CountSessine

      As others have noted, he doesn’t normally try to keep the story secret. He’s told it to quite a lot of people, sometimes just to get a laugh. But he’s just found out that Ben does have a degree. It would be embarrassing to admit to a credentialed wizard that he didn’t finish.

      Or it might be more than embarrassing. I’m not sure what the law says about practicing wizardry without a license, especially in Widdershins, so near the anchor.

      • And the credentialed wizard in question is Ben. That’s gotta be a kick in the teeth.

        • svartalf

          In multiple ways and for multiple wizards, I suspect.

          Mal’s got his digs in all the same. >:-D

      • He has a provisional license! This.. isn’t quite the same as a full one.

        • Tsapki Perez

          Hmm, sort of like a license to sell a certain type of good or service but mostly being an entrepreneur rather than part of a grounded business with offices and other such things that give an air of legitimacy? Something akin to Nick Wilde?

          • AJ

            Or like a license to tell people that you’re not as qualified as other wizards when they ask for your license with your resume? (And how you get accent marks on a Windows keyboard, anyhow?)

            • Probably like a UK provisional driving licence. You have one while you’re learning to drive but you must be accompanied by a qualified driver and you can’t go on motorways. Once you pass your driving test you get a full licence and they let you out on the road on your own.

              • Thorin Schmidt

                Hey we have that where I grew up… It’s called “being a farm kid” – where you’ve driven tractors, combines, and large-scale grain trucks (lorries to you Sturzkampf) all over the farm since you were 8, then you go get a license to drive a dinky little automobile when you turn 16….

              • Sanjay Merchant

                A magical learner’s permit? (That’s the typical US term for that thing you just described.)

              • U.S. has learner’s permits for driving, and some states have varying levels with restrictions like “must be accompanied by a licensed driver” or “can’t drive after dark”, things like that. Makes me wonder what Sid’s restrictions are? Can’t cast magic within x meters of the anchor, can’t summon specific spirits/emotions, can’t sell his services as a wizard for money?

  • Lemeres

    darn it, I will never know what the secret was, will I?

    I can’t even imagine what kind of secrets he would have. I mean…he already has so much upfront to be embarassed about, so what could he be hiding?

    • AJ

      You know, Sid is clever. It could be some random and not important thing like how he crumped apples from his neighbor’s house as a kid.

      • D. Schwartz

        Crumped? Means steal?

        • Iituem

          Definitely scrumped, unless you’re referring to how he then made a pastry out of those scrumped apples, crumping (or maybe crimping?) down the edges to form a pleasant decorative effect.

          • cphoenix

            Wait, crumpets have apples in them?

            • Euodiachloris

              No.

              • cphoenix

                Um, it was a pun?

                • It does raise some delicious possibilities, though

            • AJ

              Crumpets are little fried biscuits.

              • Euodiachloris

                No. Crumpets are either very thick drop-scone type batter-things, or a form of griddle cake. Here. To get fruit and sweet, you have to add jam or a compote. :)

                They aren’t biscuits, because they don’t get baked either once or twice. They’re griddle goods, so fried isn’t exactly right, either. Waffles are the same kind of deal: they’re not exactly fried, not exactly baked. :)

                • AJ

                  This whole thread is (besides a fun conversation) an exercise in me using the wrong words with the right concepts behind them.

                  I’ve made crumpets. I was using “biscuit” as a term for “generic round quickbread,” (Although quickbread isn’t quite accurate in this circumstance either because crumpets are allowed to rise briefly and quickbreads aren’t. But on the other hand, I let my biscuits have a brief rise too.) Anyway, biscuit is the word most likely to evoke the right sort of image around the people I interact with most often. Which is why I used it.

                  • Euodiachloris

                    A biscuit can be a quickbread… that’s dried out in an oven in a second baking pass. Twice-cooked: literal translation of the Anglo-Norman. :) That’s the origin of hard tack >> modern biscuits.

                    Britain doesn’t use the term “biscuit” for anything still in the soft, quickbread/ griddlebread phase, even though modern biscuits are usually only baked to hard in one process, now. They’re still dried things to eat with cheese or tea — with or without yeast (see shortbread and rusks). ;)

                    Personal confession time: digestives and hot lamb curries are to die for. Obviously, not chocolate digestives, however. xP. Although, they might work with fish or chicken… *ponders*

                    • AJ

                      Maybe we should start using some kind of tag to identify our dialect when we post.
                      Dry breads of any sort are not the style in America. We do moist cakes with our coffee. (At least, that seems to be the style as I’ve observed it. I drink neither beverage.)

                      And while I know that a “digestive” is a kind of bread, it makes me think of some kind of supplement you might take to aid your digestion. Possibly in a precipitous way. :/ I suppose I should broaden my horizons.

                    • Euodiachloris

                      A digestive is a wholemeal and, fundamentally, sweet biscuit, no yeast. It uses baking powder for a bit of a rise. Hence, it’s not really a bread, not even a soda bread. You don’t get a quickbread version of it, at least. :/

                      It’s called a digestive because the higher bran content was thought to be an aid to, well, digestion (particularly for getting port and Stilton or other strong cheeses down during the smoking-and-drinking phase of a social gathering of men after a dinner — mixing sugar/fruit and cheese goes back to Anglo-Roman tastes). Used to be sold in pharmacies during its early years. Having said that, so was opium, cocaine, a selection of boiled sweets and lozenges (some with medicinal value, most not — some for a time included radium)… and household rat poisons like arsenic or cyanide. :P

                      Victorian values were… different. <_<

                      It's arguably a better dunker in teas or coffees than rich tea or Marie biscuits. :) Hence the popularity during quick tea breaks where you don't have time to break out the cakes, sandwiches and scones. Also good with pâté and other savories for the sweet-salt contrast, as well as epic with chocolate spreads and any jams to double down on the sweet. :)

                    • AJ

                      1. Huh.
                      2. Well, really, you can tag all of humanity like so: #whatisthat? #Idunnoletseatit
                      3. Mmmmm. Yep. I want to move.

          • D. Schwartz

            Got it and thanks for the language lesson.

          • Euodiachloris

            It’s crimping. Just, don’t get into the pasty* debate about crimping. Seriously, don’t. >_<

            * No, not those ones, you heathen. Pasties as in pastry and the oldest meaning of the word being among the oldest kind of pie.

        • Iituem

          Scrumping: An English word for theft so petty that nobody would bother to prosecute (because a magistrate would laugh you out of court) or even seriously injure. The traditional punishment for scrumping is a swift kick, broom or switch to the backside, or breaking your neck because you didn’t look where you were running whilst attempting to scarper from an orchard with a farthing’s worth of apples.

          • kuku

            Are scrumped apples more scrumptious than ones that are legally acquired?

        • dana

          Maybe he went scrumping in some trees belonging to a hedgewitch (is there such a thing in the Widdershins universe?) and she cursed him. That might explain his magical kleptomania.

      • ellen_11001

        I thought the word was apple scrumping…

        • AJ

          THAT’s the one! I knew I was close, but it didn’t feel right.

          • ellen_11001

            I do pride myself on my knowledge of weird English words ;)

  • Dane 72

    They should just go straight for Lust, got a feeling he is very close

    • Pangaea

      The Sins have to sealed in reverse order, so Lust would be the last, having hidden successfully for so long. The order would therefore be Wrath, Envy, Gluttony, Pride, Sloth, Greed and finally Lust.

      • JWLM

        I think that Harry and Sid might not want to be involved in that last desummoning. Just sayin’

  • WitUnderPressure

    I’m curious to know what Curiosity looks like…

    • MoeLane

      Feather-winged snake with a cheerful face and opalescent scales. Curiosity has a habit of poking her head over your shoulder to see whatever you’re currently working on; she always *means* to politely cough first, in order to warn you, but sometimes she forgets. But she’s otherwise pretty good company. And she’ll listen to you for *hours*.

      • I support this description.

      • Haven

        I wanna be friends with Curiosity now

      • Pangaea

        You left out the part about Curiosity and her role in killing cats.

        • AJ

          Yeah, but Satisfaction always brings them back for her. He’s crazy about her that way.

    • Sapphire altera
      • 703 Noemi

        my brain has upgraded the image without my permission, so now curiosity looks like WALL-E

  • Sanjay Merchant

    OK, them each being nervous and embarrassed about their respective educations in front of the other is hilarious.

  • This inferior University where Mr Thackerey graduated; Oxford or Cambridge?
    Edit: Or of course, if he was really scraping the barrel, it could be that new one they opened in Durham a couple of years ago… :-)

    • JWLM

      I assume he attended Belial College, Oxford.

      • LOL! Assuming it isn’t contradicted by the VOG, can I nick that for my fan fic?

        • I had no plans to make note of which uni he attended any time soon, so no contradictions here.

        • JWLM

          It’s all yours. Just tell me when it’s up so I can read it.

          • Oh, it’s a story that’s already up, but I had Mr Thackerey get his degree from that second rate University at Cambridge. Just changed it:
            http://archiveofourown.org/works/5052862

            • JWLM

              Ha! Got it.

              Does the fact the he was a scholar at Belial have the same class markings as being a scholar at Balliol would have had in the same era, I wonder?

    • Euodiachloris

      :P You mean St Andrews, surely… ;P

  • Awkward university dropout avoidance skillz high-five, Sid!

    (and just imagine MS Word’s grammar checker having a go at that phrase)

  • Sid! You fibber!

  • Sapphire363

    I just can’t wait until Sid realises that the hug from Wolfe has caused him to acquire both his and Ben’s watches and wallets

  • Sapphire363

    I love the little parallels between Sid and Mal. For example, they both avoid crowds, one because he is afraid of ending up with ten different wallets, none of them his, and the other simply because it causes him pain.
    I mean, not really parallels, but, I dunno, both doing something similar to avoid the consequences of a power they can’t control I guess.

  • Ryan Shurie

    He definitely has a degree from Widdershins, he just accidentally stole someone else’s.

  • Graham Garrett

    I really do love this!

  • Sanjay Merchant

    Huh. Mal is shielding his eyes when looking at Sid but not Ben. Is he just more used to Ben’s specific aura or does Sid shine brighter because he’s got more talent for Wizardry?

    • Sanjay Merchant

      Or it may be the summoning circle he’s shielding his eyes from.

  • tali

    “Half jealous, half impressed, all annoyed.” Isn’t Ben always kinda like that? :)

  • Sarah W

    Going back to comment: I’d like to see more of Curiosity when we’ve got more leisure time (i.e., probably when this chapter’s over). He/she/it seems entirely adorable.

  • This guy

    Aw, we didn’t get to see Curiosity?
    But what does she look like? I want to know-
    WAIT A MINUTE.

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